tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12543231.post3146055795157726065..comments2023-06-15T09:41:19.355-05:00Comments on NT/History Blog: The Movement of God - 4Bill Heromanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05283809456471966882noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12543231.post-71817443916032428092010-09-04T15:33:40.706-05:002010-09-04T15:33:40.706-05:00The basic definition of "matter" is that...The basic definition of "matter" is that which has weight and takes up space. So yes, matter requires space. God, however, is immaterial.<br /><br />At any rate, I'm comfortable with the ambiguity of Gen. 1:1-2. As you note, those verses do not clearly state whether God created the physical universe or merely brought chaos to order. So, as I say, we must presume (if we presume) that God predates physical matter.<br /><br />That's the assumption I'm making in this series, anyway. But we'll give it a good shake over the next few posts.Bill Heromanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05283809456471966882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12543231.post-23118365053741276432010-09-04T13:08:02.069-05:002010-09-04T13:08:02.069-05:00Bill, was there ever a time when there was not tim...Bill, was there ever a time when there was not time or the perception of it? I mean, does the story begin in Gen. 1 and God create matter or is there pre-existing matter in Gen. 1?<br /><br />How do you read Gen. 1:1-2?<br />A - "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters." NASB<br /><br />OR <br /><br />B - "When God began to create heaven and the earth - the earth being unformed and void, with darkness over the surface of the deep and a wind from God sweeping over the water - " JPS TANAKH<br /><br />Why would we think there is not a time when there was not space or time or the perception of time? If matter pre-exists, like God, then there would be the possibility of time perception, yes? It also seems pre-existent matter requires space...yes?Franklinnoreply@blogger.com