Comments on NT/History Blog: Let's Quarantine all the Defective People

Brian: I see. I would agree that A&E we...

2009-12-18T13:32:53.767-06:00

Brian: I see. I would agree that A&E were perhaps made "non-defective"; but I wonder about their reliability. I suppose one shouldn't equate unreliable (at least in a rudimentary sense) with sinfulness.

Thanks, Brian. Worth commenting on Blogger, even....

2009-12-18T11:35:47.476-06:00

Thanks, Brian. Worth commenting on Blogger, even. Wow. :-)

this is outstanding! now, i too will hsave to re-...

2009-12-18T11:27:36.257-06:00

this is outstanding!

now, i too will hsave to re-watch it, perhaps even buy it.

i also think a lot of us have missed it as to what Jesus meant about being perfect.

I'm suggesting A&E weren't non-defecti...

2009-12-18T09:55:21.392-06:00

I'm suggesting A&E weren't non-defective human beings. I think they had less than infinite IQ and the capacity for mistake making other than outright sin. He might not have paid her enough attention. She might have had headaches too often. If they were human, they were less than 100% efficient, and less than 100% reliable.

I'm suggesting God made imperfect to drive us to Him. Not that it always works...

Bill: I suppose "inevitable" is t...

2009-12-18T09:46:42.928-06:00

Bill: I suppose "inevitable" is the better way to describe God's perspective of the Fall. When you say "We're just not made to be perfect" do you mean we as in humanity since A&E, or would you apply that to A&E also?

According to plan? I suspect so. "It's ...

2009-12-18T08:57:03.616-06:00

According to plan? I suspect so.

"It's not what you've got, it's what you do with what you've got."

That's what matters.

I'm going to have to watch that movie again no...

2009-12-18T08:54:44.396-06:00

I'm going to have to watch that movie again now.

Great insight, Bill.

Sometimes, folks quaranteen *themselves* together by deeming everyone else as 'defective'.

We all seem to be caught in a game of trading one defect for another. Somehow it all misses the point, and yet, as you suggest, it all seems to be according to plan.

I think the fall was probably inevitable and so Go...

2009-12-18T08:26:31.718-06:00

I think the fall was probably inevitable and so God was prepared for it, but "intended" sounds a bit odd, whether you're Calvinist or not. I don't think God wanted A&E to fall. I think he wanted for them the same abundant Life he wants for us.

Before the fall, however, there were still deficiencies. Not just the capacity for sin, but simple human weakness. For example: Adam either (1) left Eve alone or (2) stood by while the snake tempted her. Great husbanding, dude. (What, was he ADHD?) And why the heck did he eat what she gave him?

We're just not made to be perfect. When Jesus said, be perfect as I am perfect, I suspect he meant that with regards to two commandments only.

Thanks for the comment.

Good thoughts. I wasn't sure what to make of W...

2009-12-18T07:52:30.554-06:00

Good thoughts. I wasn't sure what to make of Wall-E when it came out in theaters, but since my kids have watched it a million times at home, I've grown to like it. It is Pixar, after all. Your comment about thinking God may have intended for us to be less than perfect is something I've struggled with of late. I get outdone these days when I hear things like "God created the world but things went wrong," as if God somehow let it slip past him! While the issue of God and evil is a prickly one, I'm not so sure that the Fall, as with everything else, was not somehow intended.